Steve Dorff, composer of pop, TV and film hits
Steve Dorff |
Songs such as Kenny Rogers' "Through The Years," Barbra
Streisand's "Higher Ground," and Anne Murray's "I Just Fall in
Love Again," are just a few of the classic songs that Dorff created in his
massive catalog that spans decades. Dorff has 20 top 10 hits and 14 Billboard
number one hits. He earned an American Music Award and has Grammy and Emmy
nominations to his credits. Dorff has recorded with over 400 artists.
In addition to his masterful pop songs, Dorff composed songs to popular
television shows including Growing Pains,
Columbo, Murphy Brown and in films such as Rocky IV, Honky Tonk Man, Tin Cup and many others. Recently, Dorff release his
autobiography titled, "I Wrote That One, Too... A Life in Songwriting from
Willie to Whitney."
On Friday, March 22, Dorff brought his talents back to the Red Clay Music Foundry in downtown Duluth, Georgia -- to perform and discuss his songwriting craft. I had a recent
conversation with Dorff about his career and love of the songwriting craft.
What memories do you have about the Red Clay theater?
SD: I have. It's a cool little theater. They have a cool piano there. I
just walk in and we try to do venues that have baby grand pianos. The electric
keyboards don't have that magic.
Ah, so you're a purist? How did you get into music? Did you take piano
lessons?
SD: I'm self taught. Never took a lesson. Used to listen to my sister who was ten years older than me practice and uh, I would crawl up on the piano bench and play what I heard for six hours a day better than she could. She wanted to break my arms and fingers.
SD: I'm self taught. Never took a lesson. Used to listen to my sister who was ten years older than me practice and uh, I would crawl up on the piano bench and play what I heard for six hours a day better than she could. She wanted to break my arms and fingers.
That's an incredible gift.
SD: It really is. I write about that in my book. I have a book that was
released last year. I have synesthesia. As a small child, I saw colors that
showed me the intervals as to what I was hearing. When I got around the
instrument, I could almost see what I was playing. It started the process early
in my development.
Where did you grow up and go to school?
SD: I grew up in New York and went to the University of Georgia and was a
journalism major.
Coming out of UGA, how did you get into the music business?
SD: Going to school was a deal that I made with my parents: get a degree
in something, anything rather than run away and join a rock band. Journalism didn't
have math or chemistry, but I cut classes and went down to Atlanta. There was a
music publishing company, Lowery Music that gave me my first start. I started
playing in the studios and doing demos.
How do you construct songs and what inspired you to write songs?
SD: That's a good question that I don't consciously know the answer.
Whether I'm in my car or in the shower or walking down the street, I would
start hearing a melody hook or a lyric line or maybe in a conversation, I hear something
and say that there is song there. When I
sit down at the piano, I have 75% of the song.
How do you put your songs together? Is it the melody first or lyrics or
maybe it depends on the situation.
SD: It depends on the situation and the collaborator. Sometimes they will
send me a lyric or melody. Sometimes we'll hash it out in the studio. It's a
different process with the individual.
Can a song be written on voice?
SD: To hear the chords and the melody, you need to do that on an
instrument.
So someone who has the melody hook in their head can come to you and you
convert that to chords on the piano?
SD: Yeah.
Who inspired you growing up?
SD: I was always a huge show tunes fan. My sister and parents played a
lot of the great classics like "Bye, Bye Birdie," "The Music
Man" and "Fiddler on the Roof." Just great show tunes. That was
my inspiration until I heard The Beatles. I would say that Burt Bacharach and
Dave Grusin got me into arranging and production.
What was it like working with Ringo Starr after discovering The Beatles
years before your recording session with him?
SD: That was a 'pinch me' moment. It was pretty cool, surreal. I was
asked to write the end title song ("You Never Know") for John Hughes'
last film Curly Sue. I had Harry
Nilsson in mind. When we had the song and John loved it. He said, 'Yeah, Harry
is good, but I hear Ringo doing it.' I asked how we were going to get Ringo and
sure enough they reeled him into it. It was magical. He was a hero.
What's the difference between doing a pop song or movie score?
SD: That's a really good question because as a composer you're exercising
completely different musical muscles. When writing for film, so you don't have
to write lyric so you don't have to worry about word. You're kind of
underscoring what's happening in that scene. There's no set time or rhythm
constraints. It's more of a free flowing musical art form. When you're writing
a pop song, you have a structure to write a three and a half minute song.
Who helped you get out to Los Angeles?
SD: I had $400 that I amassed and went knocking on doors. I knocked on a
door that didn't get slammed in my face. It was a guy named Snuff Garrett. He
asked me to play a few songs for him and I did. It was fortuitous to be in the
right place at the right time. He said, 'How would you like to move to
California and write for me?'
You stayed in a house in which (then Larry King's future wife) actress
Shawn Southwick was living as a child.
SD: When I first came to Los Angeles, Bill Lowery who I was writing for
had a very dear friend of his, Karl Engemann who was an A&R person at
Capitol Records. When Karl heard that I was coming out, he let me stay at his
house. Shawn was an 8 or 9-year-old girl. Karl is now in his 80s. He was
involved with the Osmond brothers in Utah. Shawn reached out to me on Facebook
and said, 'You need to come on Larry's show!'
What was it like to work with Barbra Streisand?
SD: Barbra is arguably the greatest female vocalist of all time in terms
of record sales. She had number one albums over six decades. Probably will
never be done again. There is a reason. It's that voice. She's a strong
personality. She's a perfectionist. I have been so blessed to have four songs
with her and on her new album with "Love's Never Wrong." Every pure
songwriter like me who has written the soundtrack of people's lives. Nobody has
any idea of who we really are because they just assume that's a Kenny Rogers
song, a Barbra Streisand song or a Celine Dion song. No, those are Steve Dorff
songs made famous by great voices. Most people don't know that. That's what my
show is all about. These songs come from an organic place. If we're lucky
enough, we have a great voice that brings it out into the world.
Ray Charles was another iconic figure you worked with.
SD: My experience was not a great one. I was asked to write something for
the opening credits to Clint Eastwood's film and that was a duet with Ray Charles
and Clint. It was more like an assignment. My association with Clint was
amazing because he gave me my start in film. He wrote a nice testimonial on the
back of my book.
How has it been doing these live shows?
SD: It's fun because people are forgiving. Once I start singing these
songs to audiences, it's very apparent within seconds, no one has heard me on
the radio. I joke about that and say close you're going to swear that you're
listening to Whitney Houston sing this song and then I play a song that I wrote
for her. It's endearing to hear the song played in its most organic form, the
way it was intended by the writer. I think that's what is enjoyable to the
audience and to hear the story between success and dismal failures that
songwriters have experienced. It's great
to see in the audience people learning that I write these songs. The performing
thing is new to me. I have been a studio rat for years. It's nice to get out.
Do artists approach you for a song?
SD: I just write the best song that I can and pray that someone I like
want to record it. With Barbra, "Higher Ground" was written with
George Green. We originally were going to pitch it to Mariah Carey.
You were inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame.
SD: I was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame (June 2018) and for
me it was all about having great singers do my songs and having hits. Getting
into the Hall of Fame was my pot of gold. The Hall of Fame encouraged me to go
out and do these songs. I'm not the face of these songs, I'm the heart and soul
that created them.
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